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Hi, I was looking at libusb/libusb#237 and noticed that TLP is a huge offender with regard to USB device processing in udev.
The TLP udev rules need an extremely long time to process events. This is not really necessary, as there is no reason to block the rest of udev (and userspace!) in order to possibly enable USB autosuspend.
But, equally bad is the fact that we even wait for this operation to complete. I am thinking the following solutions are possible (roughly in preferred order in my view):
Have udev rules that do not require executing a long script. You can test for file existence in udev, so writing out a file to e.g. /run/tlp and testing for that you can enable/disable rules. Not sure if a RUN rule though, as autosuspend needs to be set on the parent device.
Have a tiny daemon that monitors udev and reacts to the events.
Push the script into a systemd (template) unit. i.e. add TAG+="systemd" and set ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}+="tlp-usb-udev@.service". The service should be Type=oneshot with ExecStart=/lib/udev/tlp-usb-udev usb %I or something similar (did not test it).
To avoid the sleep, one could trigger it for each interface update. But, that is kind of ugly as it would create a lot of .device units.
I expect udevadm settle is enough though, so possibly just an ExecStartPre-=/usr/sbin/udevadm settle.
Remove the sleep and run for usb_interface and update the parent; but that still means loading all the shell scripting.
So, 1. not sure, might be complicated. As for 2. (daemon), that seems kinda neat in a way. 3. may be a bit verbose in systemctl status, I imagine. And, 4. is simple, but I am not sure I like it that much :-)
Starting daemons or other long-running processes is not allowed; the forked processes, detached or not, will be unconditionally > killed after the event handling has finished.
I think I'll just give 4. a try as soon as I have time. The "backtracking" includes only one step to the direct parent.
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linrunner commentedon Nov 28, 2022
Hi,
thanks for your insights. I have (obviously) thought about your comments for a quite a time.
I openly confess that my knowledge of the subject leaves a lot to be desired.
benzea commentedon Oct 20, 2023
Or maybe it would be enough to fork into the background so that udev can continue to process rules?
linrunner commentedon Oct 30, 2023
The udev manpage says:
I think I'll just give 4. a try as soon as I have time. The "backtracking" includes only one step to the direct parent.