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MgO cube standard: failed cleave and water-free polish plan - #20
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Records the first cleave attempt on the SPI 01845-AB MgO cube (razor + hammer, then a sawed notch; no cleave; video linked), SPI's own cleaving guidance and likely causes, and the diamond saw -> Bakelite -> polish plan with the MgO-specific changes to the byu-vcl polishing SOP (non-aqueous media throughout, dedicated pad, no colloidal silica, desiccator storage). Related to #12. Co-authored-by: Ronnie Guymon <244881888+ronnie-guymon@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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@claude what are the sources for the MgO cleaving? And what is considered "sharp"? Use Edison to confirm this will work the way it is supposed to, and find a video and SOP for cleaving the MgO cube. |
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Claude finished @ronnie-guymon's task in 37m 5s —— View job MgO cleaving: sources, "sharp", Edison check, video + SOPShort answer: My earlier cleaving advice rested on one procedure source, SPI's own note, plus a Mohs value from webmineral. The rest was my own inference. Edison and a wider search partly confirm SPI's method:
I found no video of MgO being cleaved and no formal SOP beyond SPI's note. Everything is now in Sources for the cleaving method
Corrections to my earlier answer:
What counts as "sharp"There is no standard definition for cleaving. Measured edge sizes:
In practice:
Edison resultsI ran two
Video and SOP
Question: what did you saw the notch with? The razor, a hacksaw, and the diamond saw leave very different notches. Commands runNot done
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Co-authored-by: Ronnie Guymon <244881888+ronnie-guymon@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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I got it to work! I'll post the video and explanation in #12 |
Answers, verbose task trajectories, file listings, and table artifacts for the two LITERATURE_HIGH queries. Co-authored-by: Ronnie Guymon <244881888+ronnie-guymon@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
… SOP search Co-authored-by: Ronnie Guymon <244881888+ronnie-guymon@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
Co-authored-by: Ronnie Guymon <244881888+ronnie-guymon@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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@claude using edison, how much does charging effect EDS? We don't really care about how high quality the micrograph is, just how accurate the EDS results are. We will be working at 3.2nA, so a relatively high current for an insulating sample. The only problem I could see charging causing is not allowing as many electrons into the sample as with a conductive sample at a comparable beam current. This would just increase the needed acquisition time, but I don't see how this would affect the x-ray count accuracy at all. Is there something I am missing here? I'm asking this because I realized we might not want to coat our MgO standard since that would affect the spectra we are wanting to use as a standard. |
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Claude finished @ronnie-guymon's task in 15m 53s —— View job Charging vs. coating for the MgO EDS standardEdison didn't run. Edison's login rejects the repo's Short answer: Yes, there's something missing. Charging doesn't mainly reduce how many electrons arrive. It reduces the energy they arrive with, and that changes the X-ray counts, not just the time it takes to collect them:
A thin carbon coat costs a few % of O Kα, the loss is predictable, and DTSA-II corrects for it. Charging errors are typically tens of %, drift over time, and DTSA-II can't correct them. Keep the coat in the plan. What the longer-acquisition picture misses
What the carbon coat costsCalculated with xraylib attenuation coefficients for amorphous C at 1.9 g/cm³ and a 35° take-off angle:
Recommendation
Low vacuum and ionic-liquid coatings aren't good substitutes for an O standard. Both put O in the beam path: air or water vapor in the chamber, or the acetate in EMI-CH₃COO. In low vacuum, the gas ions also shift the landing energy (Toth et al. 2002). Not done
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docs/mgo_cube_standard.mdfor the SPI 01845-AB MgO cube, the Mg/O EDS standard. It records:Related to #12.
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@ronnie-guymon (original comment):
Claude (original response):
Short answer: Recorded in
docs/mgo_cube_standard.mdwith your video. The saw → Bakelite → polish route works for an EDS standard. The big change from the metal SOP is no water at any step. SPI's own note for this crystal says "For polishing or repolishing MgO, non-aqueous media should be used at all times". Otherwise the polished face hydrates (SPI's "white haze"), which is the surface film the cube was bought to avoid.Why it probably didn't cleave
SPI says this crystal "is normally cleaved very easily" with a single-edge GEM razor blade placed parallel to an existing edge and a light hammer tap. Per SPI, "the only time there is a problem is when the razor blade being used gets dull", and 2 mm is about the thinnest slab you can get. Likely contributors:
I couldn't watch the full video because YouTube blocks this runner, so I only saw its three auto-generated stills. Treat the list above as inference. If you want one more try before sawing: use a new GEM blade (not the one used for the notch), a hard bench with a lint-free wipe, the blade across the middle of a face, and one light tap.
Changes to the byu-vcl polishing SOP for MgO
The full step-by-step table is in the doc.
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